How to Trick a Child Into Playing the Violin (or Other Boring Things)


Bored.SizedI would like for my son, Leif, to play the violin. I’m a serious ex music geek and so in addition to pegging me as an abhorrent tiger parent intent on thrusting my offspring into the one-percent where they can be hedge fund managers and own things like furniture coasters, I also happen to think that music is an enriching skill that adds depth to a life well lived.

That’s beside the point.

The real point is this: in this age of Candy Crush and YouTube fail compilations, how can I encourage my 7-year-old to stick with his violin teacher’s insistence on months spent perfecting the perfect hand and bow position? I know one thing: the second I add my own insistence to the teacher’s the jig is up. Leif has to want to play or he simply won’t. My second instinct is to incentivize practice with Candy Crush and (be still his pop-culture-deprived little beating heart!) maybe even a pre-screened YouTube fail compilation that happens to be shockingly void of swearing skateboarders and bikini-clad college girls falling off rope swings.

But the fact is, incentivizing a child’s behavior reduces intrinsic motivation (also HERE). This is even true to the point that offering incentives for an activity that a child likes detracts from his or her enjoyment and makes the child less likely to continue the activity in the future.

This is still hard for me to believe and even my wife, a psychologist, falls prey to the seductive idea that a $5 trip to Target after lessons will eventually result in the child associating violin practice with good things until eventually the reward can be removed and the association of violin practice with “good” will remain. (Note: she’s trained our younger child to drool at the sound of a bell. It’s a neat party trick.)

I think it would help my acceptance of the futility of incentivizing if I had some sort of alternative strategy. Yes, we’ve been to concerts and, yes, he thinks classical music is cool. Yes, I’m sure I improperly used praise to the point that Leif thinks he is god’s gift to the violin despite the fact that our ancient Labrador hefts his substantial bulk, farts, and leaves the room whenever Leif opens the violin case. And, yes, I told him that an ancient discipline of Kung Fu uses the bow of an Erhu as a deadly weapon. But beyond these parental sleights of hand, how can I create persistence?

A hint comes from THIS article published in the March/April issue of the journal Child Development. Specifically, the authors from Northwestern University ask how they can “motivate children’s sustained engagement in an otherwise boring task.” You know, like violin or homework or reading or any task that doesn’t include Candy Crush or YouTube fails.

In this case, the boring task was placing 25 golf tees in a pegboard – once completed the 56 3- to 5-year-olds would get to see “a strange object or animal.” They were split into four groups: one group was promised a sticker (because, as we all know, preschoolers will do anything for a sticker), one group was promised nothing, and two groups were promised that along with the completed pegboard task they would get to learn something new about the strange object or animal.

There was a neat difference between these final two groups: one group learned “causally rich” information about the new thing, and the other group was given “causally weak” information. For example, children in the causally-rich condition were told that a make-believe creature with a strange tail “has a tail that makes a rattling sound to scare other animals away” and kids in the causally-weak condition were told that “this has a tail that bounces up and down on the ground as it walks.” In another example, the first group was told that a fanciful machine “shoots snow in the air” and the second group was told that it “is always filled with snow.” In the first group, the new information had meaning and purpose; in the second group, it was just a description.

Kids who were given nothing and kids who were given causally weak information both completed the pegboard task an average of 1.5 times. They were like children left alone in a room with a violin and a farting Labrador. Kids who were given stickers made it through an average of 3 pegboards. And kids who were given causally rich information made it through an astounding 4 pegboards. Read that again: interesting information beat stickers! Stickers, for gosh sake!

The easy explanation is that children like knowing neat information about how things work and that this causally rich information trumps a $5 trip to Target. (In fact, there is evidence this causally rich information may be physically pleasurable in kids’ brains.) Another explanation is that providing this information kept kids engaged and alert during an otherwise boring task.

No matter the mechanism, the result is this: “If expectations for extrinsic reward are generalized too broadly, insidious degradation of children’s global intrinsic motivation to learn can result. [But] because causally rich rewards inherently capitalize on children’s intrinsic desire to learn, we suggest that they may be less likely to have this detrimental effect on a child’s overall intrinsic motivation.”

I have armed myself with neat stories: how a violin works, what is the concertmaster’s role with the conductor, why Stradivarius violins are the bomb, what is the difference between sound waves, light waves, ocean waves and earthquake waves, and of course why scantily clad college girls would do best casting off on rope swings with straight rather than bent arms. You know, all the causally rich information a 7-year-old boy wants to know. And I’m going to see if this newest sneaky parent trick can create persistence.

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8 thoughts on “How to Trick a Child Into Playing the Violin (or Other Boring Things)

  1. This is incredibly interesting! I’m a bit surprised though – I thought a general consensus had been reached that rewards were far more productive when the recipient wasn’t told beforehand (i.e. no: “if you do X then I will give you Y”). Rewarding without letting the subject know beforehand decreases (or eliminates?) that negative effect to intrinsic motivation.
    I wonder how these two factors might combine then – what’s the interaction between forewarned/not-forewarned and interesting/boring-info?

    1. Wow, what a great question! I poked around Google Scholar a bit and found a couple studies that might give us some hints. First, there’s this ( showing that a real, tangible reward like money hurts intrinsic motivation, but positive verbal reinforcement doesn’t. And this oldy but goody ( implies that “noncontingent” rewards leave intrinsic motivation intact — i.e. a reward for the process that isn’t contingent on performance or result. But I’m struggling to find the right Google Scholar word that will let me find studies about the “predictable” or “known beforehand” or “forewarned” rewards you’re talking about. Any suggestions?

  2. Loved reading this! Could it be that the “interesting information” reward for playing a musical instrument is the music itself? There is a growing body of current research that shows the physical effects of music on the brain. Perhaps the pleasure gleaned from being able to reproduce a recognizable melody functions the same way that a fact would?
    I was also surprised by the idea that parental desire would be a DIS-incentive to practicing. With my own 3 kids (violinists) I was always able to fall back on the belief that making mom happy was a good thing…..why should parents not reveal their own values and teach them to their children?
    In our recent book “Strings Attached: One Tough Teacher and the Gift of Great Expectations” my co-author Joanne Lipman and I explore some of these same questions. It’s a great read, especially for parents struggling with these issues.
    Thanks for a thought provoking blog!

    1. Mr. Kupchynsky sounds like a fascinating character! On a more meta level even than successful music as it’s own reward via a pleasurable experience in the brain, I wonder how successful performance on any task becomes its own reward? I mean, as parents it seems that’s a major goal: to help our kids take pleasure from their successes (without feeling pressure to produce…). Aw heck, this is a tricky soup!

  3. Playing the violin isn’t “boring”. You won’t be successful unless your child really wants to play. Playing lots of music for children from an early age is a great way to nurture their development.

    1. Okay, me too, actually. Only for me it’s flute and saxophone. I actually ended up with a Masters in music composition, not that I’ve used it in a decade…

  4. you can play your part and help him into playing the violin but in the end it is his choise what he wants. playing the violin is one of the most hardest thing in this world, you need patience, you need that violin to actually become a part of you, otherwise he won’t love it. you have to love the things you are doing, love makes out of your work a masterpiece not an ordinary thing. he may get to love playing the violin if he starts to work on it, he may begin to love the progress and the sound of his work in progress, he may be the one who gets to play the violin he just needs to get started and just give it a shot.

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